Once I figured out where to put the darn files and where not to put them, I created a ground plane following Traveler's instructions and it really is a pretty amazing and clever concept. The potential for these in Poser is outstanding! You can actually "morph" your terrain in much the same way you can "build it" in Vue or Bryce. It will be a nice alternative for when you don't want to go back and forth between Vue and Poser or if you have P5 and get tired of the extra work you have to do :) I haven't tried it, but I would bet some of Kromekat's textures might work on these really well. For the price Sharen, I'd give it a shot :)