Tobp is obviously not a capitalist! :) Frankly I thought the same as Martian manhunter......why are so many people giving away all this great stuff!! Tbop.....there is very little that's "free" in this world. People work hard making their creations.....they expect to get paid or at least cover their costs. For the most part, I don't think some of these folks charge enough!! :) You want free models?? Buy one of the many really good modeling programs or download one of the free not quite as good modeling programs......and make your own bud!!! Then if you're feeling really gracious, buy a domain, post all your free models and worry about how you're going to cover the cost of the bandwidth!! Jeez cripes...get a life!!