I wouldn't try to go for the blown-out lighting in the source picture or we,um, I mean you will have probs lighting him. I've seen Macy look almost that dark in indoor scenes. All the comments were accurate-- Id concentrate on the nose rounder and some jowels if possible in the mesh-- I know the limititations of up and down on MIke. I knew him first thing before noticing the companion pict. Amazing job so far. Emily