okay, but, it is fun to learn to use lots of tools. i happen to like modelling. that doesn't mean i can stop using my vicki....not until in about 50 years or so, when/if i get enough skills to make my own full detailed character. poser is for posing. and, it is pretty good at that. now, i think lightwave, since it can bone and animate too, may be able to "pose" figures.....but, how much effort would have to be expended? (the manual is over a thousand pages, and, i'm just trying to get a small hold on the modelling functions, at this time.)i'll say this: if it takes me even LONGER to get a decent pose than poser does...well, i won't use that function. if it does the job, it does the job. and, there are a couple of poser artists over at raph.com, if memory serves me well.