I got Painter 3d at ebay. Works in win2k well enough but just a real bear to get the material to sit right on the model once its imported into Poser or Bryce. I'm back to using UVMapper. Body paint seemed promising. There's a demo out. Deep Paint was more interesting on the interface but the demo crashed my system a lot. I think all the paint programs are over priced. Its a niche market and really does need some competition.