I found Poser in a roundabout way, thru Bryce. I heard about Bryce ages ago, on a now defunct program on CNBC called "The Site", I really miss that program,I wish they'd reactivate it. Back to the point. Naturally, when I finally got a PC, I'm an ex-Amigaite(I wish they'd bring that back,too). One of the first programs I got was Bryce. I found info on Poser on Metacreations site(I guess that's about defunct, too). When I first tried the demo, I knew I must have the full Poser for my own. That's kinda how I made the final decision on Bryce,too. Demo's DO count, but they have to be very good.