Painter8 is great in conjunction with Poser, its "natural" brushes, oil, watercolor, colored pencil etc, can do more than Photoshops' can. Of course Photoshop can do a lot more in other areas. Like Photoshop it's terrific for postwork, giving a more painterly look. Poser, Photoshop, Painter, and a good 3d terrain program like Bryce, Vue, 3dmax, Rino, etc (everybody has their favorite), complement each other. Since Painter doesn't have a forum here, I appreicate the information. I don't think the Painter8 company is pushing a way for customers to get their program cheaper. I think the gentleman is just showing Poser users an "honest" way to get the program cheaper ("if" you can upgrade to Painter8 from Painter Classic)