ah.... now you see why I wrote that line? ;-) I guess what we've all become guilty of is always assuming it's ok to do that sort of thing, purely because 99.99% of the time no-one in the past has minded or even felt the need to ask due to this being a fun forum ..... indeed, most of the time it's welcomed as it's demonstrating an improvement.....even when not actually a technical one. Oh well, lesson learned. Subject closed as far as I'm concerned. (",)