Tomsde, I bought Carrara as a final renderer, I do modeling in other applications that are far superior to Carrara for that purpose. I do some simple modeling in Carrara but more complex modeling I prefer using Amapi. I seem to remember a post saying you only have 1.1, I have 2.1 and its a major update regarding the renderer. I use the Global Illumination renderer a lot, it does A LOT more than the hybrid raytracer (just look at my gallery for example of that)... a lot more than P4 or P5's renderers that's for sure. I like having caustics and indirect lighting, those are features you won't see in many other 3d programs in the same price range as C2. I recently gambled on P5 but I own P4 Pro Pack and I imagine I will probably still use P4 for assembling characters and props. I hate P4's renderer, its slow and not very good. I have heard that P5 is no improvement in that area, and bah, I can get simple raytracing for free... (PovRay) I have been rendering in Carrara for some time now as a result. You can get freeware renderers that work better than P4's renderer. I only got P5 for its cloth room and its directory management, for the upgrade price I figured why not. SR3 is out now and the program has finally gotten stable enough to consider buying. If I decide P5 is nice, I may do my final assembly of scenes in there instead. But I'll still be rendering in Carrara. Because C2 has a better rendering engine than Poser. Because with plugins like Fresnel effects (part of the PPex from Lost Horizon Software) and Anything Grows, AGrooves and Shader Ops (Eric Winemuller), and Tree Druid (Zenstar software), I can duplicate some very convincing transparency and refraction, convincing displacement mapping, create lovely trees from custom presets, plus use those trees as tip objects with AGrows to create convincing outdoors scenes, features that rival plugins for big guns like Cinema4d, Lightwave and Maya. With a cheepo box of Carrara and a few cheepo addons I can get the look of 3d software that costs thousands more and is a hundred times more complicated to use than Carrara. I guess you can realise that I like this, and this is why I am such a Carrara enthusiast. Carrara won't do the work for you but if you are willing to put your mind to it, you can do some very professional 3d artwork with Carrara. I'd love to live in a perfect world but for now, if you want to import Poser figures to Carrara RIGHT NOW... and you want to do sequences RIGHT NOW... then use my method until a plugin becomes available :) I guess I removed the old saw that you can't import Poser to Carrara. Well, sorry. You CAN. I CAN. I do it all the time. Its not even hard to do once you know how. Its just a hassle where a plugin would be much smoother and nicer. The question Paul asked me directly is how can HE import easier from Poser without Grouper, with a Mac, and I believe I answered the question. For those that want to use the information TODAY... enjoy. I guess I should get to making a tutorial page as I am sick of people saying they can't do stuff in Carrara when they can. marcq... I agree with you. I for one do not think that the DAZ software will do what C2 can do anytime soon. But if it is a easy to use straight-forward posing program, it could have its following. C2 is a mature and stable product with rendering features that rival some high end software, I don't think DAZ will be getting to that level soon and its hype to even think so. But I'm looking forward to the cloth room...