Ok, I had been doing a lot of interior designs and wanted people to put in my images to make the rooms I was designing look more "real." I had checked out lifeforce and characterz but neither one of those was what I was looking for and then I found Metacreations and Poser 3 looked like it would fit the bill. So, I talked to a friend of mine who let me "borrow" his P3 to try out. It was exactly what I wanted but Poser 4 was in Pre-Order so I just went ahead and ordered that one instead of buying Poser 3. Which will explain to y'all why I do not have any Poser 3 models that didn't come with P4 (like those stupid sneakers I need) cuz I dumped the borrowed copy as soon as the legal one arrived. Kate (who believes that EVERY program on the market should have a free downloadable WORKING DEMO)