So, the Vue and Lightwave plug-ins will be in a separate product? Why weren't these put into P5 to begin with? Or does CL need more money? Forget it. I'm sticking with P4 Pro Pack. And where is the Mac version of P5? See, you Mac people, this is the perfect example of why you should get a PC. This is yet another software company that doesn't release a Mac version until 6 months to a year AFTER the PC version has been released. I am glad that figures will open 10 seconds faster than before... they still render at the same slow speed, but why nit-pick? I'm sure Eovia will get it right when they buy up what's left of CL and release Poser 6.