Shameles Plug: I have a few dozen face morphs that help re. dorkyness at my site http://pages.hotbot.com/arts/momodot/ but the goatee morphs and a texture map are really the only way to go for facial hair. I have about a half dozen great textures I downloaded from sites that I believe are no longer in existanance but I don't know how to make them available without breaching ethics... maybe I could redo them sustantially enough in a month or two to make it okay to repost them ?? Goatee man is good, P3 and a bit heavily built, but the goatee morphs that are out there are really quite good. A few threads down were link to mens beard made of many vortices that look good on the download page but I Haven't tried... they left much room around mouth in hope they could go with some degree of expression.