Hi Bonestructure, Well, not exactly, although I am thinking it is along the same lines. Say I have put a terrain up and decide I want something behind it. I get a shape, manipulate it and try to place it behind this terrain. It stays in front. See, I am very new. And what is 'wrap it around the camera' I keep seeing people say? I feel stupid, but this is the way to learn. I keep trying to read the book and it just confuses me. lol. Thanks for your help and welcome. Wow, from Amarillo too.