Now that I'm back to doing multiperson renders, V2 is not only not dead, she's centerstage. I have a high-end computer--2.4G 2gmemory. I also have Poser 5. Can't use three V3's in a scene, heck can't use 2 millenium figs in a scene if they are completely togged up-- have to add the rest in low res. Rdna is like PoserWorld, very even handed in clothes for both V2 and V3. Emily