Well..and this not just for the UpDo...I could swear I have the hair selected.I've clicked on it..got the red outline..but it still really wasn't selected. The only way I know for sure,is to check the dials...if the dial title says"hair"or "UpDo"..then it is selected. And of course you won't see any change untill you render...the dotted outline(I call them "ants")will still show the complete hair. Sorry I couldn't help more,SWAMP