Very sad but true Billy. Corel are financially rooked and Bryce is definately on the back burner, or perhaps in the ash pan. There was a lot of discussion a while back on ways to save Bryce but that has fallen away and the only person who seemed to have an interest in buying Bryce, Doc Mojo of Pandromeda, MojoWorld fame, has not come back to the forum with any hints as to what might happen. So in my opinion Bryce will end up as a toy for people who have always used it and loved it but for work purposes it will have to be some other app. Catlin