Dear MzOt, Cropping is a good idea. I see what you mean. That is for tomorrow. I will be glad to get home to work on it. I have tried a little tonight with greyscale and bending the histogram a bit. Not terribly satisfied yet but working on it! I have always felt in many images, black and white says what is said and color often distracts the eye and thought from the image. In my "Tulip Bee view" image, color IS the essence of it with a bit of natural translucency and nice sunlight from the backside, too. Each image has its way. So, I will work on a bw of the portrait and play with crops. As you said, just a bit here or there will make a difference to what catches the mind's eye. I am not a pro at all..but being a jeweler by profession, I do have a few clues as to what is "seen" by the viewer of that work. Those who are just looking for big and gaudy to impress others will not find me satisfactory. Those looking for some heart, well, they might find an answer. The first impression is so vital. The image or object reaches a place in the mind(hopefully!) and that sells the image or item as good, bad or ugly. The first "mind" impression can rarely be changed or reconvinced. That is my thought on it. So, I have direction in that, looking for more in the ethereal and technical means to get there. Thanks so much for the post. God Bless. TomD'Art (aka TomDart)