15 frames/sec times 60 sec = 900 frames times X hours per frame. You'd have to keep the frames fairly simple things like AA and volumetrics completely off in order to get X to a value of minutes rather than hours. The challenge would be to get something of acceptable quality in a reasonable amount of time. I was playing around with waterfalls last year and finally gave up because of the time involved, but bryce does ok at animation if you have the computer time to spare. Rayraz, If you were to group each body part seperately, Bryce has some potential with animating bodies using parenting(Agent Smith provided a link to a parenting tut a few days ago) ... I've tried the Natural pose demo it seems like the best bet. Although I'm tempted I don't really think it's practical for me at this point to do animation. - TJ (Time it's all we really have - all we really own.)