possibly design a firefly render mod. to work with p4, then offer p4 and the render module to p5 users for free. i have to agree with the comment above, p5 could be a beautiful peice of software. i don't know how it works... why is that? i have had p5 for a few weeks now. i tried to register it with cl via e-mail and they haven't gotten back to me. i'm on a government computer and can't register from the computer i'm posing on, and i likewise can't just call up and do it by phone, because i'm deployed in the middle east right now. seems like cl has gotten my money for the product and that makes me "low priority". "low priority" people have nothing else to give, so "low priority" people can wait their friggin turn, ie, wait until nobody else is buying poser. come on daz. where's studio? i think people have just about eaten their fair share of trash around here. and for those that have a working p5: i hope you can use it to no end. if everyone had a tool like p5 that worked, it would be a happy place indeed. could have been such beautiful software.