:-D Rayraz, I would love to be good enough to sell my stuff but I figure until then I'm going to learn on the cheap version. It's gonna be a long time before I get good and if I do I figure I can dish out the extra bucks then. The way its looking Byrce 6 will be out before I get that good. (I'm saying this realizing that Bryce 6 may be a loooong time off). Of course you make a good point, If you're one of those talented people (Like you) then starting with a program that allows you the license to sell is smarter.