Oh, Vic 2 isn't dead. A little bruised and battered maybe, but surely not dead. Daz models are all the rage and the latest, greatest one is always going to get the bulk of the attention. Merchants are concentrating on V3 now because, well, she needs a wardrobe now - Vic 2's is already quite extensive. When Mike 3 is released, he'll be all the rage for awhile as well. "Sometimes progress progresses too fast" (Dr. Seuss, "The Lorax") ;o) Laurie