I use Schlabbers poses as a base and adjust from there. I do some of my own posing, but most of the time I'll leave it to the master, so I can get on with the rest of the image :) Poppi, Might I suggest you go get a cold drink? or go pet the cat for a few minutes? :) you sound a little stressed. No reason to pop off at the poor guy who just asking a question Lyrra