There is a commercial plug-in (sold at safe harbor, I think) that adds numeric functionality to Inspire bringing it closer to the "real" version (I think it was based on lwave 6.5). I think one problem with the lwave community is that many of them started way back in the Amiga days and had to bootstrap themselves at a time when everyone was clueless and don't see why anyone else should have it any easier! I like working in Carrara's vertex modeler, too, and that's why I'd love to see a few enhancements in C3 so I don't feel like I'm missing quite so much relative to lwave and c4d.