Looks like I don't install this yet. Still no answer from the German programmers on the question Igohigh and I raised. The problems id'd by SimonWm (inability to cancel and the memory issues)are precisely the type of thing that happens to me with large renders. I never had P4, but I do have Vue and a 100 mb render would not be a problem in Vue at all. At first I thought it was a computer/OS issue.....that's why I started the other thread (to see if there was a pattern). But hpdrag is running a stallion of a computer for Poser only!! I didn't expect the Vue capability, because it was clear from earlier threads that it would not be available this time. I don't use any of the rooms but the material room. Until the memory issues and rendering lockups on large renders are resolved, it's a waste of time. I've given up on trying to render large images with depth mapping checked in the lights or cast shadows checked in render options. Most of the time it will lock up on the first production render if I do. No point in getting a larger computer.....that's not the solution either. Not sure what is.