Yeah.. I guess I should note that I had very few problems with Poser 5 initial release and really none at all since SR 2.1. SR3 running with no problems, including hair. I do stills only, except for cloth and hair animations to pick the frame I like best to render. I uninstalled Poser 4 ProPack about 4 months ago, then reinstalled with no content "just in case." I haven't even opened it. I have 3 runtimes.. P5 and two linked.