I think I see a trend-- I'm definetly going to return to Classic windows-- I'd already ditched my extra styes proggie and that helped. Tir, thanks for your patience, I'm not sure we did it right to the end-- I have 35G in my runtimes-- that's last I counted. Bound to be more now. Maybe counts for the slowness and the problem finding textures??? Or perhaps just eating the memory as I give textures a long leash when I wait. I suppose I should completely disconnect Sci-fi and urban from Fantasy. That would cut it in half. Some of Sci-fi is overlapping-- the new freebie bone hair is a big case in point. But I think I could get somewhere with a 16G runtime. Emily