heya; well, i hate to tell ya this, but don't look at me. :) i don't use the new method of making figures in poser. i use the old phi-builder/import method. what problem are you having with importin phi files? oh, poser doesn't import the hier AND put the new figure in the scene, you gotta dig it out of the new figures library yourself. if you mean you got the same rotation order as the other method... they're probably all set at default xyz. they should be set to twist/side-side/rotate, in that order. you may have to do this by hand. also, even after you get the right rotation orders, you still need to open the joint editor and put the centers where you want them, and adjust the falloff thingies. dont expect the figure to work right from the get-go. it's gotta be hand-tweaked. :) can you post a pic of your figure and what is wrong with the joints?