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Subject: Wormhole


NasMan ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 8:48 AM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 2:11 AM

Hello, I'm trying to find a wormhole model/texture. I've tried to accomplish this in Bryce myself, but it isn't coming out very good. If anyone knows where I might find one, it would be truly great! Thanks Randy


Rayraz ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 10:28 AM

Do you want the matter-disc rotating around and particle-streams emmiting from the Schwartschild radius? Or do you just want a maze-texture?

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NasMan ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 10:49 AM

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I'm not sure what you're describing. I've attached a small picture of another one I was trying to duplicate. It looks great... I wanted it to be a circulating wisp of clouds circulating around a black hole. Thanks for you help Rayraz!


sailor_ed ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 10:55 AM

If it were me I'd go with the matter disc and particle streams. Maze textured worm holes always look kind of fake.


eelie ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 11:12 AM

Isn't this funny....just to show you how differently we think, my first thought was literal holes worms had eaten. :oD I was picturing wormy wood or something!


NasMan ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 11:12 AM

I know...but it's pretty to look at. Do you know where I might find either type (models and/or textures)? Thanks


eelie ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 11:23 AM

I don't know about the space type, but for something like worm-eaten wood, I think I'd do something like combine a wood grain texture and maybe the pitted concrete and tinker with them to get the effect. Maybe the weathered wood could be modified too. I've not had to try this yet so I'm not sure which would look the best.


EYECON ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 12:19 PM

heres an idea, combine eelie's idea on texturing then create a cylinder or any object, boolean another cylinder, apply texture then there you go!... you see worm holes, especially on hard sufaces is simple a circular hole, thats it... you have to add the texture to creat somthing natural, now if your thinking of a worm hole in the ground... well try to create a terrain, put a hole in the center... make it a rather bit distorted then apply noise..., and after that apply a texture with a bump map set at 100. that may look realistic... after all, a hole is a hole... hope this helps! eyecon


NasMan ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 12:44 PM

Thanks for all the input guys...I'll give it a try. NasMan


sailor_ed ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 4:38 PM

I played with this a bit: trying to make a wormhole in space. I took a mountain (any one that came up when I clicked on the icon.) Then I went into the terrain editor, the filter section and used the KPT twirl to swirl the terrain a bit. Then I put a bright white dot in the center (for the hole) then I used the sliders on the right to chop off the black surrounding region and the very bright dot. If you go into bryce and turn the mountain upside down and look into it you should have a swirled funnel shape leading to a central hole. The real trick is to find some transparent, fuzzy, smoky material for it. I didn't have too much luck with that. Maybe this will give you some ideas.


TheBryster ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 7:31 PM
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Just a suggestion...you might try Paramount's Star Trek DS9 website. I think there's a pic of the wormhole.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 7:33 PM
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RayRaz: ...'Schwartschild radius' is that anything like the Einstien/Hiesenburg Bridge? Or are you describing the event horizon?

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Aldaron ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 8:45 PM

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Something like this?


sailor_ed ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2003 at 9:24 PM

Looks pretty good Aldaron! We're waiting for your secrets!


Aldaron ( ) posted Wed, 14 May 2003 at 7:14 AM

It's just as you described above sailor_ed. The "disk" is a flattened torus and the mateerial is phantom cloud in the clouds presets with a bit of tweaking on the terrain. May try again to get closer to the pic posted above in post 3.


Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 2:08 AM

'Schwartschild radius' = the distance from the black-hole's center to the event horizon. I will see if I can make a nice texture.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 7:43 AM
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Rayraz: Thanks! I didn't know that...amazing what you can learn here...

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Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 7:53 AM

It starts getting really interesting with quantum fluctuations at the event horizon. Then matter and energy can just appear out of nothing! As far as I know quantum fluctuations are the only way to let matter escape from the event horizon.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 8:10 AM
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What I find fascinating about black hole is the idea that the tractor effect is so pronounced that a body's feet/legs could be well on the way to the core before the head has reached the event horizon...

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Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 2:56 PM

In fact the head would see the feet come near the event horizon and slowing down infinitely, but the head never actually sees the feet entering the wormhole, because the photons that are neccesary to see the geet entering the wormhole will never escape the black hole.

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Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 2:57 PM

geet = feet

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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 3:17 PM
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Rayraz: I'm not about to try this soon...LOL

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Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 3:36 PM

Would the head actually notice crossing the event horizon? I mean every piece of your body would have the speed of light. Would the brain effectively do nothing and be frozen in time? Or would it notice everything at once (because of the non-exsistence of time at that point)?

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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 15 May 2003 at 7:38 PM
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Probably have the same view as a body travelling at the theroretical warp 10. It would be able to see everything, everwhere in an instant....

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Rayraz ( ) posted Fri, 16 May 2003 at 12:24 AM

Cool.

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