LOL...thanks Brent, but these people were very kind, just I think sad, that they are working so hard and I do really understand and respect that. Mike and I were wondering how many merchants do loose from free models out there. We are not trying to start a war, just want to know what is effected by free models with other merchants. And Niles, you are to cute, (take the logo...LOL) although I do agree with you on all accounts. Sharen