The hull,which is the parent, is a pp2, not a cr2. I am somewhat confused now, because in my POSER it seems to be possible that a prop (the hull) is a smart parent. What's your definition of "smart prop" ? I expect from a smart prop, that it finds the same position in relation to the parent (prop), no matter where the parent is, and what orientation it has. This works well in my POSER. Although it sometimes would be fine if it also goes with the scale of the parent, this not always works. But sometimes it does. In the image 2 you can see, that sails and flags have their position ok relativly to each other, but strange in relation to rigg, or hull. Thanks for reply Pauli