Completely agreeing with that, a good carpenter does not blame his tools. With MAX you have a very expensive toolbox, but are you still the person to use it, because it has to be right between the ears. No talent is going to make it very hard to get the most out of Bryce or Max. Personally i don't care if max-users look down upon us Bryce-users, its a kind of sad actually that they are doing that.

Robert van der Veeke Basugasubasubasu Basugasubakuhaku Gasubakuhakuhaku!! "Better is the enemy of good enough." Dr. Mikoyan of the Mikoyan Gurevich Design Bureau.