I do not think you realize that the curve (NURBS) control is unstable for any serious modelers. And, Yes Spline is meant to be simple. If Eovia add XYZ Section and paths for branches in spline, we could benefit alot from it for simple and complex shapes. You could easily make very detailed human figure. I won't touch Amapi, 3D Studio Max, Lightwave, Softimage, Cinema. All those softwares. I spent too much money on some high end softwares and wasted too much of my time on it. Carrara is a fine software but not best yet. I managed to make some models within hours with Carrara in my evenings. The photo shown is made in spline with limited control points. If I had XYZ sections, it would be more detail than it is and completion time would be much faster. Waldoo