Yeah, that old chestnut of an argument. It's not entirely their fault, lol. There is a certain mind set that can come with spending $3,500 on (anything) a piece of software. You're going to think highly of something you spend that much money on. And, also rightly so, 3DSMax is one of the most popular/best pro 3D pieces of software, has been for quite some time. I've gotten comments from some high-enders that tell me I need to move on to a "real" program. They can't wait to see what I would do when I "stop playing", etc. All I can suggest is to search and find your inner Kung-Fu-Monk; take a deep breath and take it in stride. And, what really muffles the minority of nay-sayers is when you can produce work (with your toy) that rivals their own... BUT, any real high-end professional, that truly cares anything about art, 3D, AND about other people learning the craft of it all...Do Not care what you start with, do not mind what programs you are using, but care about what you do with what you have. There is MUCH to be learned from computer generated art (of any kind). A lot of it doesn't require a certain named program. And, honestly, the majority of us ARE hobbyists. Some just happen to own expensive hobby's, lol. Point is - I never looked at paintings and wondered if they used sable hair brushes or cheap nylon, whether or not it was made with generic oil paint or a top of the line medium. I either like the painting or not, I enjoy the picture, not the companies name on the tools used to make it. Find some grains of salt...and start taking them. ;o) AgentSmith

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