Welll.... I say bring it on.... The truely offended folks always speak when they should be listening...I totally agree with everything above I also know that in order to get the Big Gameing jobs or into film the OWNERS of the big production houses and even the little gaming companies want all to know at least a high end program like Max or Maya or even Lightwave reason: 1.Animations and Low polygon modeling... 2.Effects(Now I agree we can get spectacular effects in Bryce) 3.Rendering Now before you all BITE my head off.... I am and always will be a Brycer I also will always try to find ways to get my Low Polygon Poser models into Bryce for some serious Animations(I want to do Matrix and Final Fantasy type of Animations in Bryce,I know I can too....)But Until I can either afford the Programm of Konans or figure out how to do it another way I am still looking at useing either Poser or Another Render to do the Animations and believe me I want to use Bryce because of its Lighting Engine no other program has the ease of use that Bryce has and if someone could come up with a PLUGIN to import Poser models and corresponding Textures right then we couls and would over take the higher end programs because we would be cheaper...I myself think we have more talented Artists here then I have seen in any Max forum and you all can Quote me on that... So with that said I say.... Smells like Challenge time..... Remember folks we can always import OBJ files that have been converted to low polys and then you can build your models and export as OBJ and UV map your textures and I also think I remember seeing one of our very Talented artist who did a tutorial on how to get your poser animations into Bryce....Cant remember...