Come on Bulldawg, relax a bit, some of us use both, Bryce is a great program, I've been using it since version 2, however it is lacking in modelling ability, how many of the really great artists here (i'm not including myself here, but there are some great artists here, try pmoores or Rochr or Leo or ....etc etc) use another package to create meshes before import and rendering in bryce. Bryce has IMHO great terrain generation, and superb lighting/rendering, but I can make models in MAX in very short periods of time that I don't think I could make in years in Bryce. We're comparing vastly different tools that are both superb in different areas. (with regards to learning things - I only learnt today from Kromekat that I can target objcts with a spotlight in Bryce Lol, guess I've never really tried it)

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Toolset: Blender, GIMP, Indigo Render, LuxRender, TopMod, Knotplot, Ivy Gen, Plant Studio.