Thanks everyone! I've played with it a little, moved the camera angle just a tad, fixed the areas I wanted to. I'm doing what I hope will be a final render now. And, Rayraz? Part is because I upgraded my memory and I can put more things in a scene now without killing my computer but the biggest part is this forum. Sometimes I feel like I spend more time reading and trying things than actually working on images. Every time someone posts a new technique or effect I go running off to figure it out. Now all I have to do is figure out how to use all those techniques! :o) Seriously, if it wasn't for this forum, I'd never have gotten this far along....it's better than any book out there.