yes i agree with you diandra just wanted to know what was meant by seamless tiling. cause i know i have tried this on my animal prints and floral prints and everytime have come into making them a kaliedescope which annoys the mess out of me. So since i also sell fabric swatches, i make them non seamless but i try to give people huge sizes that rosity well allow on digital. although as one of my customers has come to me in the past asking for the full size of one of my packages and i have inturn uploaded and gave that to them. dont know if it was the wisest idea but if you buy it and want it then lest its there so you can make it seamless on your own. maybe one day i well just take the full sizes, put them on cd and sell them that way. also Laurie thanks, i knew about that one, but that is right, doesnt always work on everything. wish it would though would make my life alot easier. i have brocade fabric, i well try to seamless those although they are very design heavy so it may not work. can you please tell me where i can find this program you are talking about?