Here comes the opinion of someone who had Problem child 5 crash again last night. :( Get the Daz figures or wait for DAZ Studio then decide. P5 hasn't delivered on its promises on my system and I'm running a decent system: 1.7Ghtz, 1GB RAM. Only P5 gives me significant trouble; every other program on my machine is well-behaved. There are a few things that make P5 nice - such as library nesting, but the freaking program is so slow it drives me nuts. I don't like waiting 10-15 seconds after a render has completed to get control of the program back. (I've had wait times of over a minute and I didn't have a lot of meshes in the scene.) P5's nodes get cluttered and P5 gets confused as to which textures to apply to figures after a while. Switching light sets can also crash P5. Thank goodness ockham created a python script to fix the issue! Until CL puts in a patch to fix the "Can't find texture" crashes and resolve texture confusion issues in general, I can't recommend P5. PPP is worthwhile for the .png thumbnails, .jpg bump maps, python scripts and the lack of geometry .rsr files which suck up hard drive space. It's also more stable and faster than P5. I've only seen one Judy character that looked good, and she's a commercial product with additional morphs - but boy did she look good! Judy and Don do not have a useful number of morphs, nor is there the ethnic variety found in V2, M2, and V3. (I will admit that Don is a big improvement over Dork, but Judy doesn't strike me as much more than a better UV Mapped Posette.) If you go the DAZ route, I'd go for either V2 and M2, or just V3, and get DW's texture converter so you can use a wider range of textures. As for making clothing, you need to know a decent amount about making clothes even with the P5 "dynamic cloth" function. I found the instructions on using it very confusion. There's a good number of tutorials out there for using magnets or morphing clothes in other programs to make them fit better. As well, there's far more free clothing for Vic and Mike out there than clothes for Judy and Don, so it will be easier to use them as a base for new/modified outfits. And that's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-)