okay....i'm too much of a bigmouth to lurk for long. after failing miserably to make an old fashioned doll for the december rhino challeng...i skimped more than usual, and with my rebate got lightwave. i've tried over and over to achieve even partial greatness on making the face with the edgeloops that is over in the lw forum. i need help with edge loops and that furslurginner "spin quads" command. i did figure out how to hit the f key, though to constrain my edgeloops to a certain area. oh, and, some brief tips on cutting up/dividing a mesh into parts....i am thinking that i can just click on the polygons in a certain part...hit my q key and give them a name...is this right or wrong way...?