I guess I'll be the first to respond to this. :o) I guess I'm a little confused. First, what exactly are you wanting? Something I've learned and try my best to practice, is if you have a complaint, be ready to offer a solution before voicing that complaint. This is one reason why I tend to not give critiques here...because I don't feel I know enough to do so sometimes. The next is that what you're so, uh, verbal about is something no one has any control over. People are people and there's no stopping them. You're talking about the party bore, the loudmouth at the next table who thinks he's soooo funny, the crass people who have no clue how others feel about them. Those people are going to interject themselves into other's lives regardless because they are oblivious to other's feelings. There really is no way to monitor those people except to not associate with them. Last I guess is how do you judge what's good and what's not? Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder and what one person thinks is art, another might think pornography or simply bad. What I tend to see here at in other places like Renderosity is that there are very many people who have a great technical grasp of 3D art but the subject matter is awful. To give an example there, I recently saw a series of someone's work that was technically wonderful. However, all the subject matter had to do with what I preceived to be torture and disfigurement. However, this person was applauded by everyone as being outstanding art. Here is where personal taste comes into it because I thought it disgusting. I would rather see some newby's garish art than something that depicts what I saw in these images. So back to my first point. How would you make the distinction? Who would be the judge? Art is too subjective in my mind and I think in an informal community such as this, it does have to be a personal judging. It only took me a short time to see what standard I was hoping to apply to myself. I'm willing to police myself and post where is appropriate or to not post at all except in this forum. I'm sure I fall into the category of "general lack of quality and thought some of the works I see on Renderosity have" but as you noted, everyone has to start somewhere. I suspect that most of those who really don't have an inclination for this art form will naturally drop by the wayside while those who are serious continue on with it. Probably the casual user outweighs the serious so there is probably an overabundance of those people. I also fall into the category of hobbiest. This is a hobby for me. I have no aspirations of being a serious artist, making a bundle of money from it or makeing a mark on the world lasting centuries. I simply want to make pictures I think look good to me, and that I enjoy doing and hopefully, give a little pleasure to others somewhere along the way. I take pride in what I do and I will try my best to do my best but when I quit having fun doing it, I'll quit. I'm thankful for those here who are willing to give their advice and I try to learn from it. To another point you mention, did I pay for Bryce? Not initially. I downloaded the trial version, and since I have access to two computers, I ran the trial consecutively on them so I got two month's worth of use. Then, a friend of mine offered me a copy of his. I'm just serious enough about this tho', I went ahead and purchased my own copy. Since I work for a university, I got an academic version at a cost I can afford. (BTW, this same friend, who is a graphic artist, has offered me several other programs from 3D-Max to Rhino and Poser, all of which I've politely refused.) Finally, I am thankful for all the "good job!"'s I've gotten. Most of those have come with "this was good but if you do this, it'll be better" and I appreciate that. If all I'd gotten was no response or nothing but "it sucks" responses, I'd have quit trying to learn Bryce a long time ago. Maybe I'm too nice (and I've been accused of that) but why should I tell someone their work isn't good when it simply doesn't suit my taste? How do I know what their intention was when they created it? Maybe they wanted the look they got and if I tell them it's not right, then I'm imposing my taste on them. Last thing? I think what you're talking about really amounts to a version of censorship. It's possible, but at what price? This community is open to all, serious or not. And I do say this with no animosity. These are simply my views. :o)