No what I said was the last blue screen I got which crashed my system completely was with the previous update. Total re-install from scratch, next blue screen, with no update on the memory for the pro pack, just straight install on both got me a blue screen after I installed the SR3. One thing I wish I could figure out here...why is it if you say anything about Poser 5 that doesn't seem to be a compliment to the program or the company gets you a slew of comments about your system not being good enough or something YOU did wrong must have caused the problem? Just curious. Everytime anyone says anything that could be construed as bad they get slammed. When will people admit that there are some inherent problems with this program and there are actually things missing like ik in the hair room? Marque