Well said, jasonmit. Downgrading peoples work because they use primitives and default textures is the wrong way. It is not important what they use, but how they use the shapes and textures. Else Draculaz has to damn everyone who goes to a shop, buys some "default" oil colors and brushes and paints a lovely picture on canvas with this. Even if it looks great. It's not the chosen tools which define art - it's the art itself which is important. Greets, Jimi