Poppi: That's one of the things I can see about being great about 3d modelling - that you can take a fledgleing idea (especially a rather undecipherrable doodle on scrap paper 1 step from a stick figure) and chip away at it over time. Correcting as you go till you have something that resembles your mental image if not ones actual drawing/baseline :P Of course it would always give you something new to learn I'd imagine...as creatures evolve - skins and textures, wings, claws appendages of different types, plain or irridescent each with own challeneges.... What have you found the most challenging to model so far.? Virtuallyhistorical: I agree one has to fel comfortable with what they're using or else no matter what you try to create it's going to become a 'hated chore' which wouldn't help. I will admit I do like the cinema 4d manual/PDF file nicely explains lots of things and I actually understood 3 point lighting afterwards (which is more than could be said after a different modelling book I read went through it)