Actually, many gamers still run 98 because it's not as resocurce intensive as XP. I run P5 on XP pro on a 2Ghz Pentium4 with 1Gb of Pc3300 DDR Ram. using Poser5 on that machine is like running P4 on my old PIII 700Mhz laptop. It's just slow, I've tried cutting services and everything else to the core, even mucked with the clock in an attempt to get the forground process to run faster. Didn't work. When it stopped being fun, I stopped using it, went back to Poser4, where I pootle and play as I see fit. I didn't buy this for a business so I don't have to make use of it. The way I look at it is this. It wasn't a waste, CL needed the money, for my money they gave me a product. The product doesn't work very well, but I'm not going to get angry about it because it serves no purpose. It is not going to work as advertised anytime soon. When it does, then I'll give it a second chance, provided I've not found something else to occupy me in the meantime. IMO, P5 is a flawed product, it's no fun to play with, so I don't, it works better on some machines than others, and some people are more forgiving. Poser4 locked on me the other day too, forst time is ages, if I'd have waited it might have come back, but I got bored of waiting. Your milage may vary. later jb