id just like to add that, if it wasnt for Photoshop, alot more of this poser "Art" would totally look bogus. We as a 2D communitee in this forum area weld a program that has little or no 2D bounderys. The are many 2D artists that ONLY use PS as their medium (like myself), and even more that use this program to edit their other program renders. Grim had a point (is currently burried under 22 posts that have derailed into another topic). but... It is true some/alot of the time PS artists get overlooked... which i suppose why there isnt a PS art gallery on renderosity, seeing as there are more people using this as a tool rather than a medium. I hope one day I will be able to post my work in a PhotoShop gallery on here... but who knows.. probly never happen. I am glad of one thing though, Adobe creating Elements. I feel as if it seperates the tru PS artist from the render editor, Making us more unique.