Well then, I'll keep the stone material! (bows) I use it in maybe 90% of my scene, somewhere. It's one of the old porn-based (on random) 3-channel mats! The other two channels are procedural, of course. Sometimes I'll slope orient it or whatever, and then just tweak the colors until it matches the mood I'm searching for. This is all Bryce 4... (bored at work)