hmmm..Zhann, it's only fair, I've dropped so many references on folks without saying where to get it..;) back soon..woohoo! ok, created a 'mat' called 'materialpresets', only 57 meg, and I'm good to go. Thanks to all.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)