I think I may not have been entirely clear with my first post. I am not critisizing the models or the quality of modeling. let me use an example, when they released the excellent Dragon model the free stuff section had a Dragons Hoarde model (great idea) & they also had a sacrificial post etc.. They now are doing a few V3 things which is also of great benifit to their paying customers, which I think is a good idea even though I dont own V3 yet. I personally prefer it when they have models that support shop bought items (surely thats a good thing for customers & DAZ). I simply found that I wasn't using any of their free models for a while & I wondered what thoughts others here might have on this subject. There is no need for a tirade of comments from disgruntled modellers or free stuff users calling me ungrateful or whatever. Lets try to keep the posts on a resonably grown up level. I can see how my use of the word Junk might be slightly inflamitary & was certainly the wrong word to use. Sorry about that people, my netiquette might be a little blunt sometimes but I'm a nice guy really ;) Grav

Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what is that thing?