you whiners forget that in the professional world a $700 basketball isn't snickered at Wanna bet? :-) In some respects, I gotta agree here. I bought V3 and found it too much for my computer to deal with, so it's been shunted into the archives for the day, if any, I open it. And sure, DAZ wants to move its product, which is fine -- except they're investing everything, it seems, in V3 right now. I know this community is utterly fascinated with big hooters and a tight twat, but somehow I sorta expected DAZ to see the slightly larger picture and think about what the pros (Y'know, the maroons who would pay seven hundred bucks for a basketball) want and start orienting their product line in that direction, especially since V3 has opened the door bit in that direction. Doesn't seem to be happening -- instead, it's basically more sleaze gear that'll sell to the hobbyists. Who knows, maybe that's all DAZ wants right now. But it sure seems like a blown opportunity.