Graviton, Frankly, I wasn't upset at all when I made my post, but now I am... you say you aren't criticizing them with comments like... "novelty throw away models that quite frankly arent even worth downloading anymore" I disagree...that sounds like harsh criticism to me. You ASKED for opinions and I gave mine without calling anyone any names and without making angry statements. Then you tell me to calm down and claim I am so upset. I was neither. Now you are calling me childish when my opinion doesn't agree with yours. I think you are the one being childish by slamming a company publicly....yes, calling their products junk is slamming them. If you're looking for people to support your "observations" then maybe you need to say, "does anyone agree? If not, don't post."